Kosher questions

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:27:20 GMT

This is from PETA's 2005 "Holocaust on Your Plate" Campaign:

"Like the Jews murdered in concentration camps, animals are terrorized when they are housed in huge filthy warehouses and rounded up for shipment to slaughter. The leather sofa and handbag are the moral equivalent of the lampshades made from the skins of people killed in the death camps."

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"Six million Jews died in concentration camps,...

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:30:18 GMT

Remarkable how in the same breath we are told we were approached for our authority and yet rejected when it came to other realities.

Due to the relevance of this topic on more than one front I placed it as a "Featured Topic" to draw attention to it.

Having become inactive, I closed the thread and I trimmed away the fat so newcomers can read it with maximum clarity.]

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:57:28 GMT

"It is pointless and unnecessary..."

100%!! Couldn't care less what christian beliefs you have or don't have. Totally pointless and unnecessary to the conversation.

"Contrary to your ideas or labels that have been assigned to me, I am a Torah observant child of Israel..."

See your next paragraph.

"Anyway, I came to ask my question here because I know that it is orthodox Rabbis..."
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Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (ChibiBug) — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:50:26 GMT

It is pointless and unnecessary to argue/defend my beliefs in Y'shua as the COMING Messiah (you ascertain that I believe He IS the Messiah based on my acceptance of His teachings and death on the cross.... but because you do not know me, nor my beliefs, you would not know that I believe He will be the *coming* Messiah as He has not taken the roll of Messiah *yet*)

Contrary to your ideas or labels that have been assigned to me, I am a Torah observant child of Israel and so...

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:34:55 GMT

Thank you for taking time to answer my questions...though I am concerned."

You're "concerned?"
Misplaced.

" I have seen chickens running around with their heads decapitated...but this did not appear to be the involuntary movements of a dead cow."

The opposite is the logical conclusion.
The coordinated running around of a headless chicken implies 'life' while the spastic jerkings of the cow implies...

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (RabbiEzriel) — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:38:38 GMT

I am only going to reply to your comments made to me. The others can choose to respond, or not.

I do not find the "wild" part being in Torah. Is this Talmudic law in which there is a distinction between wild vs. captive slaughter?

That is because you do not read Hebrew. In Hebrew there is a word for domesticated animals, and another word for wild animals.

This may be the break down in my not understanding what is Orthodox...

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (ChibiBug) — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:42:02 GMT

Rabbi Daniel wrote:
1. No. Covering the blood is necessary for birds and kosher wild animals like deer. Even though I wasn't the immoral and unethical liar and con-artist who lied my way into the plant with a hidden camera, I would imagine it is a real slaughter house because of that pen/cage. That cage was specifically designed to cradle the animal and turn it over so the neck could be easily slaughtered....

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (RabbiEzriel) — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:42:37 GMT

I find it interesting that someone who is not Jewish is questioning Kosher slaughter.It is usually people who are totally disinterested who have the strongest desire to question the validity of things that they do not understand.

I worked in the meat packing industry for one of the biggest players in North America, with booth Kosher and non-Kosher houses, and to be honest with you, if you really want to see animal suffering, go see a non-kosher slaughter. Not in one of the...

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:26:34 GMT

If you do challenge them on their immoral and unethical conduct of conning their way in, it's best you don't tell them you're from a messianic congregation.

You won't have a leg to stand on.

[Pun intended.]

As a non-Jew it would be-hoove you [I'm bad] to eat vegetarian or kosher so as not to transgress the Noahide law of not eating a limb from a live animal.

Re: Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (Rabbi Daniel) — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:53:58 GMT

1. No. Covering the blood is necessary for birds and kosher wild animals like deer.

Even though I wasn't the immoral and unethical liar and con-artist who lied my way into the plant with a hidden camera, I would imagine it is a real slaughter house because of that pen/cage. That cage was specifically designed to cradle the animal and turn it over so the neck could be easily slaughtered.

Before this they were grabbing the animal by a hind leg and...

Kosher questions

feeds@yuku.com (ChibiBug) — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:19:23 GMT

I live in a small town that does not have a kosher market, so every now and then, my family ventures to the city to buy kosher beef. Our Rabbi has a farm in which we can get kosher chicken, goat and sheep..but no beef.

I was searching for kosher cookware when google gave me this lovely website on my search and I was hoping to get some insight and some questions answered....this is a very graphic video of a SUPPOSED kosher slaughter house....I am breaking the link