Anti-Jewish white supremicist shoots at Holocaust Museum in Washington DC

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Sophiee1	Anti-Jewish white supremicist shoots at Holocaust Museum in Washington DC	Lead	[-]
Posts: 12303 (06/10/09 15:42:38) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None James W. Von Brunn a World War II veteran and aged 89 went into the Holocaust museum in Washington DC and shot a guard to death. He wrote a lot of anti-Jewish diatribes on the internet and just typifies the worst types of prejudice and hatred that still exists in this world. He blamed the Jews and the African Americans for all the world's ills -- primarily the Jews. This crazy person was a member of Mensa, the high-IQ society, which just goes to show you that smart or dumb people can be idiots. סופי And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
pninah1	I think it is time to get out of dodge!!	#1	[-]
Posts: 2123 (06/11/09 17:11:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wright revisits 'them Jews' remark Posted: 05:47 PM ET From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is looking to calm this week's firestorm over remarks termed anti-Semitic by critics. (CNN) - The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is looking to calm this week's firestorm over remarks termed anti-Semitic by critics, saying Thursday he meant to say "Zionists" instead of "them Jews" when referring to people in Washington who do not want President Obama speaking with him. "Let me say, like Hillary, I misspoke. Let me just say 'Zionists,'" Wright told SIRIUS radio host Mark Thompson. Earlier this week, the former Chicago pastor told Virginia newspaper The Daily Press he no longer speaks with Obama - a former congregant of his Trinity United Church - because "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me." "I'm not talking about all Jews, all people of the Jewish faith, I'm talking about Zionists," Wright said Thursday, adding that his comments were in reference to "historical facts." "I'm not talking about emotionally charged words or the fact that like Jimmy Carter's book, that because he used the word that Jews use, 'apartheid,' he gets labeled anti-Semitic." "They can jump on that one phrase if they want to, but they can't undo history and the facts of Jewish historians and Jewish theologians who write about what's going on, who write about the enormous influence that AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) has on our government and on United States policy and the United Nations." The White House declined to comment on Wright's original remarks this week.
ProfBenTziyyon		#2	[-]
Posts: 2128 (06/12/09 07:36:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	pninah1 wrote: The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is looking to calm this week's firestorm over remarks termed anti-Semitic by critics, saying Thursday he meant to say "Zionists" instead of "them Jews".... Firstly, might I protest a the title line of pninah's message "I think it is time to get out of dodge", which seems to be some kind of American slang and is totally incompehensible to non-Americans such as myself. Americans might think they make up the majority of the World's population, but in fact they account for less than 5% of it, which means the rest of us outnumber you by 24 to 1. What the hell does "time to get out of dodge" mean, anyway? The statement doesn't even make sense! Secondly, and getting back to the point, one has to wonder whether the book T'hillim has a chapter 126 in whatever "bible" the "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright uses and, if it does, whether he has ever bothered to read the first and fourth verses? שִׁ֗יר הַֽמַּ֫עֲל֥וֹת ¹A song for the steps.... בְּשׁ֣וּב יְ֭יָ אֶת־שִׁיבַ֣ת צִיּ֑וֹן הָ֝יִ֗ינוּ כְּחֹלְמִֽים׃ when Adonai brings back Tziyyon's captives, we will be like dreamers! אָ֤ז יִמָּלֵ֪א שְׂח֡וֹק פִּינוּ֘ וּלְשׁוֹנֵ֪נוּ רִ֫נָּ֥ה ²Then will our mouths be filled with laughter and our tongues with song; אָ֭ז יֹאמְר֣וּ בַגּוֹיִ֑ם הִגְדִּ֥יל יְ֝יָ֗ לַעֲשׂ֥וֹת עִם־אֵֽלֶּה׃ then the gentiles will say, "Adonai has done great things for them!" הִגְדִּ֣יל יְ֭יָ לַֽעֲשׂ֥וֹת עִמָּ֗נוּ הָ֘יִ֥ינוּ שְׂמֵחִֽים׃ ³Adonai will indeed do great things for us − therefore will we rejoice! שׁוּבָ֣ה יְ֭יָ אֶת־שְׁבִיתֵ֑נוּ כַּֽאֲפִיקִ֥ים בַּנֶּֽגֶב׃ ⁴Bring back our captives, Adonai, as the streams return in the Negev. הַזֹּרְעִ֥ים בְּדִמְעָ֗ה בְּרִנָּ֥ה יִקְצֹֽרוּ׃ ⁵Let those who sow in tears reap their harvest with joyful song! הָ֘ל֤וֹךְ יֵלֵ֨ךְ ׀ וּבָכֹה֘ נֹשֵׂ֪א מֶֽשֶׁךְ־הַ֫זָּ֥רַע בֹּ֬א־יָב֥וֹא בְרִנָּ֑ה נֹ֝שֵׂ֗א אֲלֻמֹּתָֽיו׃ ⁶Even though this one goes on his way weeping, carrying his sack of grain− he will certainly return singing with joy, carrying his sheaves! This is just one of many passages in the T'nach that make reference to our return to צִיּוֹן Tziyyon (the correct pronunciation and spelling of the place-name that illiterate christians insist on spelling "Zion"). http://mordochai.tripod.com - פרופ' מָרְדֳּכַי בֶּן-צִיּוֹן, יְרוּשָׁלַיִם, אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל
Sophiee1		#3	[-]
Posts: 12307 (06/12/09 09:08:48) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Urban Dictionary: get the hell out of dodge To leave somewhere immediately, to evacuate or scram. "Get the hell out of Dodge" is a reference to Dodge City, Kansas, which was a favorite location for westerns in the early to mid 20th century. Most memorably, the phrase was made famous by the TV show "Gunsmoke," in which villains were often commanded to "get the hell out of Dodge." The phrase took on its current meaning in the 1960s and 70s when teenagers began to use it in its current form. Awesome. We're done here, so lets get the hell out of dodge! scram beat it clear out skedaddle vamoose סופי And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
Netanel		#4	[-]
Posts: 1721 (06/12/09 09:39:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It should be lost on nobody that the general ideologies of Wright and this shooter put them completely at odds with eachother in almost every conceivable way, and yet the thing they completely agree on is "the(m) Jews." Right wing, left wing, it doesn't matter. Anti-Jewishness is not exclusive to any particular "wing," and is every bit as at home among the "civilized" as it is the "savage."
Sophiee1		#5	[-]
Posts: 12308 (06/12/09 09:45:06) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wow, insightful and excellent point, Netanel. The shooter is a white supremacist and the man he killed was Black. Jeremiah Wright is a Black man who seems a bit anti-Caucasian. They are completely at odds with each other except that BOTH hate and blame Jews rather than take on any sense of personal responsibility for their lives. Does anyone remember this? סופי And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
ProfBenTziyyon		#6	[-]
Posts: 2129 (06/12/09 10:48:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sophiee1 wrote: Jeremiah Wright is a Black man who seems a bit anti-Caucasian. He doesn't look much like a black in the photograph that pninah1 posted. http://mordochai.tripod.com - פרופ' מָרְדֳּכַי בֶּן-צִיּוֹן, יְרוּשָׁלַיִם, אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל
Sophiee1		#7	[-]
Posts: 12309 (06/12/09 11:48:42) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Amazing what hate can do, isn't it? סופי And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
pninah1		#8	[-]
Posts: 2125 (06/12/09 13:24:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Firstly, might I protest a the title line of pninah's message "I think it is time to get out of dodge", which seems to be some kind of American slang and is totally incompehensible to non-Americans such as myself. Americans might think they make up the majority of the World's population, but in fact they account for less than 5% of it, which means the rest of us outnumber you by 24 to 1. What the hell does "time to get out of dodge" mean, anyway? The statement doesn't even make sense! My apologies professor. I truly was not thinking about who makes up a majority in this world. G-d knows it is not us Jews!! Habit I guess. However, I think Sophiee explained it very well with the definition which she posted. But I would suggest that my use of "american slang" is no different than the use of written hebrew for those of us who do not read/write/speak fluent Hebrew as of yet. But give me time, I am working on it!
pninah1		#9	[-]
Posts: 2127 (06/12/09 13:33:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sophiee1 wrote: Urban Dictionary: get the hell out of dodge To leave somewhere immediately, to evacuate or scram. "Get the hell out of Dodge" is a reference to Dodge City, Kansas, which was a favorite location for westerns in the early to mid 20th century. Most memorably, the phrase was made famous by the TV show "Gunsmoke," in which villains were often commanded to "get the hell out of Dodge." The phrase took on its current meaning in the 1960s and 70s when teenagers began to use it in its current form. Awesome. We're done here, so lets get the hell out of dodge! scram beat it clear out skedaddle vamoose Todah Sophiee! We're done here? We knew the time would come. So, as your definition puts it so clearly: "we're done here, so let's get the hell out of dodge!"
pninah1		#10	[-]
Posts: 2128 (06/12/09 13:39:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Netanel wrote: It should be lost on nobody that the general ideologies of Wright and this shooter put them completely at odds with eachother in almost every conceivable way, and yet the thing they completely agree on is "the(m) Jews." Right wing, left wing, it doesn't matter. Anti-Jewishness is not exclusive to any particular "wing," and is every bit as at home among the "civilized" as it is the "savage." Excellent point! And it was not lost to me concerning the general ideologies of these two men. They are at odds, except for their hatred of Jews. For those of us who did not live through the Hitler era, this makes it easier to see, not understand, how anti-jewishness existed among the "civilized" and the "savage" then too. It is happening, again, right before our very eyes, in the year 2009! NEVER AGAIN!
ProfBenTziyyon		#11	[-]
Posts: 2131 (06/13/09 16:59:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	pninah1 wrote: But I would suggest that my use of "american slang" is no different than the use of written hebrew for those of us who do not read/write/speak fluent Hebrew as of yet. 1) There is all the difference in the World. Hebrew is the language of our holy writings, the T'nach, while American slang is not even a language at all. Furthermore, when I use Hebrew in one of my posts (and I assume this remark was directed specifically at myself), I almost invariably give a translation and my purpose for using the Hebrew is to assist those who are trying to learn our ancient language. 2) "Different *than" is itself American slang because, in English, the adjective "different" is always followed by the preposition "from" (or, occasionally, by "to"). http://mordochai.tripod.com* - פרופ' מָרְדֳּכַי בֶּן-צִיּוֹן, יְרוּשָׁלַיִם, אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל
pninah1		#12	[-]
Posts: 2129 (06/13/09 20:43:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ProfBenTziyyon wrote: pninah1 wrote: But I would suggest that my use of "american slang" is no different than the use of written hebrew for those of us who do not read/write/speak fluent Hebrew as of yet. 1) There is all the difference in the World. Hebrew is the language of our holy writings, the T'nach, while American slang is not even a language at all. Furthermore, when I use Hebrew in one of my posts (and I assume this remark was directed specifically at myself), I almost invariably give a translation and my purpose for using the Hebrew is to assist those who are trying to learn our ancient language. 2) "Different *than" is itself American slang because, in English*, the adjective "different" is always followed by the preposition "from" (or, occasionally, by "to"). Touche, Professor. "I almost invariably give a translation..." "Almost" an adverb meaning, slightly short of; not quite; nearly. I do appreciate your use of our beautiful ancient language here and pray that one day I am as fluent. However, at times it is hard to wrap one's brain around a Hebrew lesson and at the same time deal with the subject matter of a post. I not only reside in the U.S. at this time, but live in the good ole state of Kentucky! Two strikes, eh professor? I will be in Israel at the end of the month. Would love to meet you! Shalom! Last Edited By: Sophiee1 06/13/09 20:57:33. Edited 1 times.
ProfBenTziyyon		#13	[-]
Posts: 2132 (06/13/09 22:07:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	pninah1 wrote: "I almost invariably give a translation..." "Almost" an adverb meaning, slightly short of; not quite; nearly. I do appreciate your use of our beautiful ancient language here and pray that one day I am as fluent. However, at times it is hard to wrap one's brain around a Hebrew lesson and at the same time deal with the subject matter of a post. I only said "almost" to cover myself; in fact it is very rare for me to quote something in Hebrew without providing a translation (although I am acutely conscious that I did exactly this just a couple of days ago when I quoted a verse from Lukos). If, however, "it is hard to wrap one's brain around a Hebrew lesson and at the same time deal with the subject matter", just read the translation and come back to the Hebrew text at a later date! http://mordochai.tripod.com - פרופ' מָרְדֳּכַי בֶּן-צִיּוֹן, יְרוּשָׁלַיִם, אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל
pninah1		#14	[-]
Posts: 2131 (06/14/09 08:24:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ProfBenTziyyon wrote: pninah1 wrote: "I almost invariably give a translation..." "Almost" an adverb meaning, slightly short of; not quite; nearly. I do appreciate your use of our beautiful ancient language here and pray that one day I am as fluent. However, at times it is hard to wrap one's brain around a Hebrew lesson and at the same time deal with the subject matter of a post. I only said "almost" to cover myself; in fact it is very rare for me to quote something in Hebrew without providing a translation (although I am acutely conscious that I did exactly this just a couple of days ago when I quoted a verse from Lukos). If, however, "it is hard to wrap one's brain around a Hebrew lesson and at the same time deal with the subject matter", just read the translation and come back to the Hebrew text at a later date! Excellent suggestion, Professor! I like to give 100% to something that I am attempting to accomplish. Hard to give 100% to the content of a post here and a Hebrew lesson. I will work on my multi-tasking. Always good to cover oneself. It must have been your quoted verse from Lukos of which I speak. Old habits die hard? American quote by the way. Trust me, I am acutely conscious of "old habits." Working on it.