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Tue, 9-Aug-11 09:53:33
... the Professor cited are based on Micah 7:6.
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Tue, 9-Aug-11 12:41:24
Proteus wrote: What is the basis of the names you give the books of the GT?
What is the basis of the names you give the books of the GT?
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Tue, 9-Aug-11 12:47:50
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Tue, 9-Aug-11 12:57:04
Gideon, in general I'm not recognizing those names as transliterations of the Greek names. I read Greek, too.Zvi, Jesus here is supposedly quoting that verse. I looked at Micah and that's about all I can make of it. The gist in the GT is that such dismembering of families will result from his teachings, as did happen when some but not all members of a given family would convert and other family members betray them to persecuting authorities; or, alternatively, ban or shun them (cut them off).
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Tue, 9-Aug-11 14:14:30
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GIDEON MAGE wrote: Proteus wrote: What is the basis of the names you give the books of the GT?He reads Greek.
Tue, 9-Aug-11 14:24:16
Proteus wrote: Jesus here is supposedly quoting that verse. I looked at Micah and that's about all I can make of it. The gist in the GT is that such dismembering of families will result from his teachings, as did happen when some but not all members of a given family would convert and other family members betray them to persecuting authorities; or, alternatively, ban or shun them (cut them off).
Tue, 9-Aug-11 14:28:25
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Tue, 9-Aug-11 16:28:01
Proteus wrote:What is the basis of the names you give the books of the GT?
I use the same names as those used by the authors of the two standard translations into Hebrew of the GT: the German Lutheran Franz Delitzsch (1813-1890) and the apostate Jew Isaac Edward Salkinsohn (1820-1883).
http://mordochai.tripod.com - פרופ' מָרְדֳּכַי בֶּן-צִיּוֹן, יְרוּשָׁלַיִם, אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל
Tue, 9-Aug-11 17:11:36
Proteus wrote:THE QUOTATIONS ... the Professor cited are based on Micah 7:6.
If this is so, theyֹ’re most inapposite and quoted totally out of context: throughout his seventh chapter, Michah is lamenting his fate of having been commissioned to prophesy to such an unreceptive, unrighteous nation—but, in contrast, in Mattai 10:34-35 and in Lukos 12:51-53, Yoshke revels gleefully in claiming that his “purpose” was to foment discord and rebellion!
Thu, 11-Aug-11 09:47:47
Thank you for the explanation as to names.
Thu, 11-Aug-11 10:03:02
Thu, 11-Aug-11 10:14:49
Proteus wrote:Thank you for the explanation as to names.
It must be quite galling—even deflating—for you to learn that the Hebrew names I use for the GT books (and which I am sure you were about to object to as “unbiblical”) were actually coined by christians....
Thu, 11-Aug-11 10:33:27
Proteus wrote:I must reject that characterization.
To paraphrase the words famously uttered in the witness box of a London magistrates’s court by the former owner of Mandy’s Bar in Tel Aviv’s R'ḥov Hayarkon during the trial of Stephen Ward in 1963: “Well you would, wouldn’t you?”
Proteus wrote:I don't know that much about sinas micham, but it may be that families were already being disrupted in similar ways by various movements other than christianity.
What is “sinas micham” supposed to mean? In fact, what language is it even supposed to be???
Thu, 11-Aug-11 10:49:48
Thu, 11-Aug-11 11:02:58
How about "sinat chinam"?
Thu, 11-Aug-11 12:01:18
Proteus wrote:How about "sinat chinam"?
No Hebrew word can ever start with כֿ (kaf without daggésh, represented in transliteration by the digraph ch) and you cannot possibly claim that you “don't know that much about שִׂנְאַת חִנָּם sin'at ḥinnam (causeless hatred)” because the majority of christians have been displaying this against Jews for nearly two thousand years.
Thu, 11-Aug-11 12:14:55
Let's try to stay on-topic.
Thu, 11-Aug-11 21:05:32
Fri, 12-Aug-11 10:13:33
I must absent myself from the board for a while to attend to other concerns.
Mon, 15-Aug-11 10:07:10
Was not the covenant renewed at the time of Ezra?
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