Reviewing this thread today for other reasons, I came across IHateSimon's (5/6/05 11:05 pm) post and kinda got snagged.

I realize this person may no longer be among us, but think this bears saying anyway.

It's like the difference between laughing with someone versus laughing at them.

The material IHS complained about could be, I think, just as offensive to Jews as to Christians.

To this day, I remain hurt, this way, by the '60s-'70s sitcom All in the Family. No one ever laughed with Archie Bunker.