Dougg -- do you understand grammar?

Do you know that a comma separates two things in a sentence?

Well, you are ignoring the comma!

As Shmelke pointed out the original KJV translators knew enough to separate these two time periods. Someone in a later publication of the KJV eliminated it. Wonder why??!!

From the 1611 KJV:

Quote:
vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes; and threescoreand two weekes, the street shall be build againe, and the wall, euen in troublous times.


Not to mention that the dating doesn't work for J-sus no matter how you cut it. Even if you ignore Cyrus and use Artaxerxes the dating doesn't work. 483 years from the year 445 BCE would put us at March 14th, 37 CE. Much too late for the cutting off of the J-man.

Aside from Isaiah telling us Cyrus is a messiah, we also have this little quote to ignore from Ezra the prophet:

Quote:
Ezra 1:1 And in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the HaShem by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the HaShem stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he issued a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing


So now you can ignore 2 prophets: Isaiah and Ezra. Isaiah tells you Cyrus is a messiah and Ezra tells you that the prophecy of Jeremiah to rebuild Jerusalem comes from Cyrus.

Two big points here Dougg:

1. You ignore Tanach when it suits your theology;

2. Even if you discard all of the pointers and stick with the Xian dating you still can't forcefit it to Jsus (timing or vision).