Uri

Oy! First I cringe everytime I re-read one of my posts. I meant DECREE not DEGREE, anyway.

I guess what I am trying to say is, must we say, CAN WE SAY, that every time evil is committed against our people that this evil was decreed in Heaven DUE to the iniquity of our people, or can we also say it can be due to the inherent evil of those that would seek our destruction? For example, I reject any notion that the goyim might say that all of this evil has come upon us due to our iniquity or our failure to accept jsus. In my opinion WE CANT KNOW IT! Maybe as in Isaiah 53 the nations that committed these atrocities THOUGHT they were metting out justice against the Jewish people because the Jews deserved it, but it was due THEIR EVIL.

But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed.

Help me out O wise one.
Have a great shabbos
FR