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Chaim, this might also be of help.
A massive section is found in the 2003 Encylopedia Britannica under Christianity. Numerous famous scholars and theologians contributed. Apparently the work was edited by Martin E. Marty , Henry Chadwick, Jaroslav Jan Pelikan.
Under the The Holy Trinity, Attempts to define the Trinity, the first paragraph reads,
By the 3rd century it was already apparent that all attempts to systematize the mystery of the "divine Trinity with the theories of Neoplatonic hypostases metaphysics" were unsatisfying and led to a constant series of new conflicts. The high point, upon which the basic difficulties underwent their most forceful theological and ecclesiastically political actualization, was the so-called Arian controversy. Arius belonged to the Antiochene school of theology, which placed strong emphasis upon the historicity of the man Jesus Christ. In his theological interpretation of the idea of God, Arius was interested in maintaining a formal understanding of the oneness of God. In defense of the oneness of God, he was obliged to dispute the sameness of essence of the Son and the Holy Spirit with God the Father, "as stressed by the theologians of the Neoplatonically influenced Alexandrian school". From the outset, the controversy between both parties took place upon "the common basis of the Neoplatonic concept of substance, which was foreign to the New Testament itself". It is no wonder that the continuation of the dispute on the basis of the metaphysics of substance likewise led to concepts that have "no foundation in the New Testamentsuch as the question of the sameness of essence (homoousia) or similarity of essence (homoiousia) of the divine persons."
---So, what we have is a debate over doctrine that has its basis non-Biblical terms derived from speculative Greek philosophers. What I have found in my research so far, is that scholars will express their disapproval of such use as above, and then do an about-face and defend the church fathers, and say 'it was necessary to spread Christianity'! IOW, to preach to the intellectuals of the Hellenistic world, the ECFs had to incorporate Greek philosophy to make the Christian message appealing. I say this is nonsense! Paul, in his first letter to the Corinthians (in Greece) shows the folly - and really ouright disapproval - of using Greek 'wisdom', or philosophy, in spreading the Good News. No wonder the Church of the 4th and 5th centuries became so far removed from the Christian 'way' as shown by Jesus and his Apostles.
So Doug will not find the so called doctrine of the trinity taught by ANY disciple and he will discover that it is a doctrine from the minds of men and not of G-d.
Regards,
Malachi
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