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I have explained exactly how Ezek. 18/33 shows that teshuvah me-ahavah accomplishes a complete obliteration of sin from G-ds POV, meaning that there is nothing left for which to atone. I have cited our Sages using Ezek. 33 as an example of how teshuvah me-ahavah transforms sins into merits, and I have cited and linked to an article from Rav Soloveitchik detailing exactly how this works through personal transformation; both again, showing that the atonement has been accomplished completely since there is no sin left for which to atone. I have not only given you Hoshea 14:2-3 as an example that tefilah in teshuvah can serve the same function as korbanot when it comes to sin atonement, but explained in detail exactly how this can work vis--vis the undeniable scriptural parallel of the life-force in the korban put on the altar (exactly what accomplishes the atonement according to Lev. 17:10) to the life-force that exists in the breath of prayer offered to G-d. I have given you a literal rendering of the Hebrew of Lev. 16:30, one upheld by our Sages, that shows that the day of Yom Kippur ITSELF makes atonement, irrespective of whether we send out the scapegoat.
Now, you are perfectly within your rights to not accept any of this, but to claim that we simply dont recognize the need for atonement, is absurd, and it is insulting to any intelligent reader here. We DO recognize that need, but we see from Scripture and from logic that it is a need FULLY MET by means, even TODAY without the korbanot, that DO NOT require JC. So, cut the nonsense, please.
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