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ezAad wrote: 'Firstborn' can easily be understood as:
origin, genesis, parent, principle, forth bringer of all of creation
It can also be seen as:
Gods firstborn King-Messiah: Israel fullfilled to the full.
Malachi's response: First, let's begin without presupposing the doctrine of the Trinity and then go look for vereses that you think support your view. Let's see what the the scriptures says and let scripture interpret scripture.
ezAad, I don't know where you get the idea that "Firstborn" can mean origin, genesis, etc but you didn't get it from the Hebrew Bible or the GT. Show me the verses that explains any of what you wrote.
Paul calls Jesus the firstborn of created things. You did not respond to my point that in each case where "firstborn of ....(something" is used in scripture that the firstborn is ALWAYS a part of the same class or group of the SOMETHING, which in this case would be creation.
Once again, if we stick to scriptural precedent and usage, the evidence is overwhelming that Jesus being referred to as the "firstborn of all creation" indeed makes him a creation, and the first one at that. there is an extreme burden of proof upon you to prove otherwise.
Please read my post to Doug again, and reply with scripture that relates to your position.
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Malachi
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