Malachi, you and your other Trinitarian friends have yet to answer Colossians 1:15 where Paul says that the so called second person of the Trinity BEFORE he came to earth was created. Whenevr we have the the phrase "firstborn of "something", the firstborn ALWAYS belongs to the same class or group as the "something". There are no *****ural exceptions when it comes to the phrase "firstborn of "something" and there are dozens of examples to demonstrate what I have said.

I have answered this question by you several times before at this forum. It is not "created" in that verse but firstborne.

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


Firstborne is indication of his prominence above all in creation. Everything was created by him, including the angels - which the hebrew bible says that God created all things. So what conclusion can be drawn from the text is but that Jesus, the second person of the trinity, is God.


Sincerely,

Doug L.