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Mon, 12-Nov-07 19:43:52
Medini's post:paraphrase of Rebecca's points:Jesus was no longer on the planet....So how do you presume he is doing this inviting?...No, Clement wrote "the Lord Jesus Christ liveth".... but more .... the living, risen Lord bids us come. Personally. Through the working of the Holy Spirit.Medini:Fine, Rebecca, but none of this proves that the Son/JC is G-d in Clement's eyes or part of a Trinity. In fact, your objections logically founder on the fact that Eliyahu HaNavi is no longer on this planet but still lives and relates to other Jews (the Rashbi or Arizal for example) through the ruach hakodesh that he, as a navi, possesses, and yet no Jew would claim that Eliyahu is G-d (G-d forbid) or part of a Trinity.
Malachi wrote:Rebecca, take a look at this from the First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians:Chapter I: "...Grace unto you, and peace, from Almighty God through Jesus Christ, be multiplied."Chapter XLII: "The apostles have preached the gospel to us from the Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ (has done so) from God. Christ therefore was sent forth by God, and the apostles by Christ."Chapter LVIII: "May God, who seeth all things, and who is the ruler of all spirits and the Lord of all flesh - who chose our Lord Jesus Christ and us through him to be a peculiar people - grant to every soul that calleth upon his glorious and holy name, faith, fear, peace, patience, long-suffering...".Leaving eisegesis alone and letting the material speak for itself, there is nothing suggesting that Jesus is the Almighty G-d or that he is equal to him. The Almighty G-d is presented in contradistinction to Jesus Christ. Furthermore, the Almighty G-d is pictured as superior to Christ, "sending him forth" and "choosing him" for a specific purpose.
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