Netanel wrote:

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John--As you know, the attempts to explain away Torah are nothing but garbage. Whatever the attempted explanation by people like Paul is irrelevant. It all goes directly against Torah, which is not some temporary "band-aid" to eventually be yanked off.


Yes, I know that and thank you. But it is good to look at these verses and then pick them apart with the Tanach. Of course, I did ask a question as to why there has to be the above the norm sufferings to be a Xian. I will continue this later as the Sabbath is approaching.

John T.