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I will not take the time now to respond to Arikm7's long list of misunderstandings. They have been discussed before on this forum. They are not directed to my main point, which was that a bunch of horrible happenings in the history of a movement does not disqualify that movement. Ezekiel 36:22 is right to the point. Also, remember that the bad deeds get the most press.


1. These are NOT 'misunderstandings".. the NT says what it says and it says it in the tone that it says it. You're reconfiguring this in order to save your theology and yourself from serious questioning and reasoning.

2. Those "horrible happenings" included the massacre of more than 20 Million Jews and untold number of others, including my Native American Ancestors. How can it NOT disqualify the movement if the movement's main thrust for 2000 years was/is that Jeesus is the Messiah????? Should we NOT look at the criteria of the people to whom THAT TERM and nay CONCEPT was given? It seems xians want to change the job description of the messiah. If you're going to claim something is a continuation of or an improvement to Judaism, then it should be JUDGED against that standard! As such, the movement HAS failed because the Messiah was/is to protect the Jews and bring peace and universal knowledge of G-d to the world, not offer the Jews up as fodder to the xtian bloodlust. If Jeesus was the prophet people claim him to be then he would have known this. IF YOU CLAIM HE DID KNOW THIS, then he is the worst kind, the most EVIL of any prophet/priest/king in the history of mankind and may his memory and his name be obliterated from under heaven. Without Church tenant, there never would have been a Shoah.

So slice it, dice it, strain it, constrain it and reconfigure it like Polemic Play-doh, but History, FACTS and 20 million dead speak volumes as to the REAL intent of the NT and to its figurehead elevated to a "son" of god (albeit which god is up for debate.. it certainly ISN"T the G-d of Israel)