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{Thomas: This post has overtones of proselytizing. I've left it as-is because it is borderline, but please be advised that future posts like this will either be edited or deleted. (UY)}
"Paul explicitly states, after he is rebuked by the jews, that he will thereafter go only to gentiles. You are the xian, so you may look it up. It is there. Paul apparently went from hating Xians, to hating Jews. What a psychotic! Jesus not only breaks most of the ten commandments, he fails in every one of his predictions. Some of them even defy logic, as in, how many times the @#%$ "crew" when Peter betrayed him."
Gideon, you missed the discussion before of Paul going to the gentiles. He wasn't being psychotic, it was a set of deliberate moves, following the instructions of Jesus. You incorrectly add the word "only". In Acts 9:15, we see the commission of Paul to give the Gospel to the gentiles, but also to the sons of Israel. The order of action, as Paul states in Romans 1:16, is first to the Jews and then to the gentiles. Paul followed this consistently in every city he visited. In Acts 13:46, Paul stated the principle in Antioch of Pisidia, "...we turn to the gentiles." No "only". In the next city, Iconium (Acts 14:1), Paul was back in the synagogue. There, both Jews and gentiles attacked Paul, and he had to escape, although many believers were recorded. On his second journey, Paul came back to the same places, but moved on to Phillipi, where he went to the Jewish women's prayer gathering on the Sabbath. He was shortly arrested by the authorities for casting out a demon, then expelled from the city. Then in Thessalonica, where did he go first? To the synagogue, again (Acts 17:1). Escaping to Berea (Acts 17:10), Paul went to the synagogue, again. Then on to Athens (Acts 17:17) to the synagogue, again. Then he was brought to the Areopagus to speak to the Greek philosophers. Then on to Corinth, to the synagogue, again. There in Acts 18:6 we find the statement you refer to: "...from now on I will go to the gentiles." He was referring to the gentiles of Corinth when he said that, and he certainly didn't say or do "only". He was simply following the strategy he states in Romans 11:13-14. He was joined in his 1.5 year teaching ministry to the gentiles of Corinth by the ruler of the synagogue named Crispus, who had become a believer in Jesus (Acts 18:
. Then on to Ephesus, where he went into the synagogue, again. At this time, he had shaved his head from a nazarite vow. Then Paul was off to Jerusalem to fulfill his nazarite vow in the temple and bring an offering he had collected from the gentile Christians for the Jewish believers in Jesus there, who were evidently in bad shape for being expelled from the synagogue. He was arrested there under the false charge of bringing an Ephesian friend into the temple, and ended up a two year rigamarole by going to Rome to be tried by Caesar. At Rome, guess what he did. No, he didn't go to the synagogue, because he was a prisoner. He called the Jewish leaders to come to his site of imprisonment (Acts 28:17)
Now, what you have done here, Gideon, is exactly what so many Christians have done over the centuries. They knew just enough of the NT to get themselves into trouble. You are rejecting the NT because of your misunderstandings. They did atrocities because of their misunderstandings. Either way, the NT is blamed for what it does not say, or for what is taken completely out of context. If you want to reject the NT that is your prerogative. But don't reject it for what it does not say, please.
The issue of the number of Peter's denials has been brought up by many as an error in the NT. It was an issue I struggled with as a young believer. However, I didn't throw out the NT because of that seeming contradiction because I had too much at stake. It would have torn me up to walk away from the hope that the NT had given me. So, instead I agonized over it. Then I noticed that I was assuming something, namely that Peter had denied Jesus only 3 times. The NT does not say "only" there either. If you study each individual denial account, you will see significant differences that cannot be the same three times. To make the story short, Peter denied Jesus 6 times, three times before the @#%$ crew once, and three more times before the @#%$ crew twice. Jesus told him this more than once. First Jesus told him he would deny Jesus before the @#%$ crew,and evidently repeated it. Then when Peter continued to insist, Jesus told Peter that he would deny Jesus three more times before the @#%$ crew twice. The Gospel accounts only give selected records (John 21:25). I believe that these puzzles were left in the NT on purpose to see how ready one is to throw the NT out. If you want to throw it out, the Lord will provide you the excuse you are looking for.
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