Proteus wrote:

Since I'm not proposing that Jesus is any kind of savior at all, there's no point in answering that question.

Please show me where in post #60 I mentioned Jesus?   This non-answer is hypocritical and ignores the question.  If you do not want to answer, or cannot answer so be it -- don't prevaricate. 

סופי

And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12