Arikm7 wrote:
I can't believe some want us to discount the record for our ancestors (real or in my case "adoptive") as to the National Revelation at Sinai, but incredibly want us to accept the reports of seven independent and disenfranchised writers (the writers of the gospel plus Paul and the author of "Revelation") without question. All the while ignoring all the inconsistencies of their accounts, the inaccuracies in their retelling, their seemingly willingness to outright lie about the "enemies" of their narrative (the Jews) and their polemical weaving of paganism into what their duped children tout as "original Jewish movement" and ignoring the refutation of this "home-spun" myth by actual historical events/historians.

Yet they claim the National Revelation didn't happen. Or worse, try to elevate their pagan-induced faux accounts to the level of the National Revelation at Sinai; purposing to make Jeesus into some "new Moses".

The lengths some will go to grasp the last of those straws.
This goes to the issue of trustworthiness. Please allow me to reproduce one of Uri's earlier posts on that matter:

Paul said a lot of things, among which I should point out the following sample:

Romans 3:7(KJV) – For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

1 Corinthians 9:19-23(KJV) – (19) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.  (20) And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;  (21) To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.  (22) To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.  (23) And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

2 Corinthians 12:16(KJV) – But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.

The modern day's terminology for the message in the passage from Romans 3 is "divine deception", i.e., it is OK to lie for God.  Is it really OK?

The image that pops into my mind when I read the passage from 1 Corinthians 9 is a chameleon, a creature that changes its color depending on its surrounding environment.  Also, if you listen to many of today's politicians, they seem to try to be "made all things to all men"...LOL

And, finally, the passage from 2 Corinthians 12 speaks for itself - Paul characterizes himself as a crafty guy who catches people with guile (look up "guile" in any dictionary and you'll see that it means things such as 'deceit', 'treachery', 'cunning', 'trickery')

So, would you buy a used car or an insurance policy from a man who has such a profile?

UriYosef