Arikm7 wrote:

While there is NO historical proof that the xian godling even existed, whether he was or was not human or divine is in some ways immaterial. After all, it took the church 300 years to decide exactly what their godling was.

Weboh: It took it 300 years to say there was no difference of godling and God, and not much after the stupid doctrine of  "there never was when he was not" started by Origen. For someone non-existent and there was a lot of debate about him. But we don't need to discuss these things further.

Your other statements were in the line, I will gladly say why I am not a fan.

Akrim7: The fact remains that the messy-antic movement's entire raison detre was and is predicated upon deception. It was a creation of southern baptists to blatantly copy and mimic everything "Jewish" and to whitewash everything that smacks of xianity with what I call "Hebrew-speak". So Jesus became Yeshua, the New covenant became "ha brit chadasha", etc. Messy-antics arrogantly claim they're "biblical jews" but not one of them keep any commandment from the Written Torah (? understand part of what you said) but rather rely on the practices which are from the Oral Torah. Yet they reserve the right to dismiss legitimate Judaism as 'Rabbinic Judaism" while they go right on celebrating Hanukah, Purim and making brachaot before their silly services (none of these are expressly stated in the Written Torah). They're copy-cats who have no real clue as to their origins but feel they are the culmination of what Judaism is supposed to be while lapping up from the trough of xian funding. Now THAT'S arrogance.

Weboh: Oh that's right. They think deeds of the law doesn't mean getting whacked by it. Amazing disgrace: the deeds of the law enforcement, there is; (that had better save a wretch like "you".)smiley: pimp

Akrim7: As such, they are, by default, COMPELLED to approve of anything a silly wanna-be messy-antic "rabbi" puts out--- just as long as it doesn't call regular xians into any sort of Jewish observance and as long as they don't challenge the theology of xianity or the Messy-antic Movement (which is xianity with a wanna-be kippah attached). After all, it is the xian camp who funds and practically underwrites almost all of the messy-antic congregations world-wide, including the 200 or so in Israel! Approval means the gravy train and they're not going to risk it, even at the risk of their own souls.

Weboh: 200 in Israel? And they are overspending on top of it, while I am told it is better to insult the Religion of Mohammed by helping Israel stay there.
Excellent post.

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