Douggg wrote:

It's in the KJV  as separate time frames as well. . . Every Christian agrees with you that the 7 weeks and 62 weeks are separate time frames.
This is untrue.  According to the  modern  Christian view  there is a 70 week period (490 years) that is divided into two  periods: one of 69 weeks (seven and threescore and two 5 ) and the other of 1 week. That is 483 years and  7 years. Also t hey understand that when Daniel says  ‘ the going forth of the word ’  that i t  refers to some  kind of  a decree  to rebuild the city.  Just "Google" "Daniel 9" and "483 years" -- you will find all the Christian references.   There is a rule against posting link to missionary sites -- but it is easy -- either Google:

"Daniel 9" and "483 years"

or

"Daniel 9" and "69 weeks"

From Wikipedia:
"The appearance of "Messiah the Prince" at the end of the 69 weeks (483 years)[34] is equated with Jesus' baptism in 27 CE, in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, and the "cutting off" of the "anointed one"  Wikipedia.
Pulpit Commentary says "69 weeks (equivalent to 483 years)"

So, no the Christians do NOT separate the 7 and 62 -- they add them together as if they were 69.   Furthermore, in Daniel you don't need to rely on the Masoretes and their punctuation marks to realize these are two separate time frames.  Daniel 9 itself says:
“7 weeks and 62 weeks"       שָׁבֻעִ֖ים שִׁבְעָ֑ה וְשָׁבֻעִ֞ים שִׁשִּׁ֣ים וּשְׁנַ֗יִם
שָׁבֻעִ֖ים means shavuim (weeks)

שִׁבְעָ֑ה means seven

וְשָׁבֻעִ֞ים means and shavuim (weeks)

שִׁשִּׁ֣ים means sixty

וּשְׁנַ֗יִם means and two

It does not say "7 and 62 weeks"  -- the two are clearly separate (7 shavuim / weeks AND 62 shavuim / weeks).

 As I wrote back in 2010 (and this is the LAST time I am telling you this):

The King James ignores the Hebrew grammar in Daniel 9 which very clearly tells us the seven years and the sixty-two years are two time frames. "Shavuim shiva" (7 weeks) has an etnach punctuation mark after it:

"7 weeks;"

An etnach is a mid-verse pause. A break in the flow of the text. An etnach is a Hebrew version of a semicolon or a break (similar to a period it puts a "stop" after a word). The King James totally ignores the etnach!

The etnach makes it clear that there is a BREAK after the 7 weeks and before the 62 weeks -- it is dishonest to lump them together as "69 weeks."

The KJV puts the semicolon after the 69 weeks, not between the 7 weeks ; (etnach) and 62 weeks. This is either very sloppy translating, or far more likely -- total dishonesty to make the case for Jesus by mistranslating the text.
"Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks."  KJV, Daniel 9:25.
In the 1611 KJV they DID have a semi-colon after "seven weeks" -- but notice that since 1611 it is a comma.   The Christians lump it together as if the 7 + 62 = 69 and should be treated as 69. . .  this is a bad translation. 

Look at verse 26 next. It proves the 62 weeks is a completely separate time frame from the first 7 weeks.
"And after 3 score and 2 weeks" KJV (62 shavuim).
Also the KJV translators inserted the definitive article "the" in front of "Messiah" in 9:25 even though it does not occur in the text.  But now the KJV leaves out the definite article "the" which is IN the Hebrew):
after the sixty-two weeks this anointed one is cut off (Daniel 9:26)
Having added "the" to messiah they ignore "the" when it relates to the 62 weeks! They are trying to avoid the fact that "THE 62 weeks" are completely separate from the first 7? After all Daniel 9 does not say "after the 69 weeks," but "after THE 62 weeks"!

There are no 69 weeks, there are 7 weeks and 62 weeks. There is not one time frame, but two.  The 70th shavuim (which is divided in half) makes the final time frame for a total of three time frames.  There are no breaks in the timing.  The first period ends around 49 years, the second  around 483 years, and following the second period the third occurs  which is divided into two periods of  3 ½ years .

There is not one "the Messiah," but two separate anointed ones: the first is an anointed prince (moshiach nagid) who will arrive after the first 7 weeks (49 years) and the second is simply "an anointed one" who will be cut off after 62 weeks (434 years).

Enough on this subject -- your questions have been asked and answered for 9 years -- and in this case 5 years ago.  

סופי

And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
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