When was Jesus ever rejected? He had thousands of followers when he was alive, and per Acts (chapter 2 and 21) he had thousands of followers after he died. He was not rejected by the populace. The fact that the elite (per the Christian bible) conspired to have him killed does not mean he was rejected by people at large -- the opposite is true.

Now go and read some of the psalms. Read T'hillim / Psalms 35 and 38. . . David speaks of how he was deserted by everyone when Saul wanted him killed. David talks about being rejected as a child (as I already referenced). . . Now ask yourself how many countries Jews have been exiled from just for being Jewish. . . Spain, England -- and let's not forget the Holocaust. . . We have been rejected, and even today the UN constantly rejects us and blames us. . . but just as David became King although he was the lowest of the low, so too the Jewish nation will surprise the rest of the world when we become the cornerstone of the world in the messianic age.

Recently I've tasked myself with going through a list of 365 purported prophecies in the Jewish bible fulfilled by Jesus.  It has amazed me how many things claimed to be "fulfilled" by Jesus are very universal experiences or emotions.  Things as simple as friends standing at a distance are claimed to be a prophecy fulfilled by Jesus ( #101.   Psalms 38:11     His friends stood afar off     Luke 23:49).

Per the Christian bible Jesus was rejected by the ruling class, but who alive has never felt rejected? 

Queen Elizabeth I of England had been rejected as a child.  Her mother had been beheaded, Elizabeth removed from the English royal line of succession to the throne as a bastard, and discarded.  She barely survived her sister (Bloody Mary) and her brother's reigns.  When Elizabeth I was told she was queen she is quoted as having recited this part of the psalm -- saying it was "wondrous in her eyes" (a quote from the psalm).  If that is true, it fits.  Elizabeth had been rejected and was now the cornerstone of her kingdom. . .

Do you see the ridiculousness of it all?   Certainly the Jesus of the Christian bible fits some of the experiences of others in the T'nach (having friends stand at a distance, to be thirsty) -- but they fit almost everyone!  They are not messianic prophecies.    Far too many of these "proofs" are wrested from context as well.   Thus when a psalm repeatedly says the subject has sinned that part is conveniently ignored for Jesus, and only the few words that he might fit are held up as "proof."

T'hillim / Psalm 118:22 is on the list, but I haven't reached it yet, but when the psalm itself is read IN CONTEXT it is clear that the psalm is about King David and the Jewish people.  Thus, Rashi's application of the psalm to either David or Israel is logical.  The Christian bible's misuse of it as a "prophecy" about Jesus is not logical -- they've simply taken the topic of rejection as if it were not part of a "whole" and said "this is Jesus."

T'hillim / Psalm 118 is a poem by David praising G-d.  In it David calls on the Jews, the Jewish priests and all who love G-d to call on Him.   David tells us to trust G-d, not men, not princes.  Read lines 17 - 22 -- David is speaking in the first person about himself.  "I shall not die but I shall live and tell the deeds of G-d.  G-d has chastised me, but He has not delivered me to death.   Open for me the gates of righteousness; I shall enter them and thank G-d.  This is the L-rd's gate; the righteous will enter therein.  I shall thank You because You answered me, and You were my salvation.  The stone that the builders rejected became a cornerstone."

Jesus DID die and did not live.

Did G-d chastise Jesus?  I must have missed that part!

The psalmist says "
He has not delivered me to death" this does not fit Jesus who WAS delivered to his death.

The psalmist says "
You were my salvation"  Did G-d save Jesus?  No, Jesus was murdered.  (Don't missionaries claim Jesus does the saving, not that he himself was saved?).

Having ignored all of those lines, the missionary now claims the last line is about Jesus.

I can see it -- but I can also see Queen Elizabeth I as well.   One must ask himself, to whom was the author of the psalm referring?   The answer seems clear that he was speaking of himself, and possibly the Jewish people (as he refers to them often in the psalm). 

סופי

And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
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