Thanks again Zvi, "I think your misunderstand the Jewish view of HaSatan. No one said that "the Accuser" is perfect or that he is "the most wonderful of the angels." We simply point out that he is doing his job in testing mankind." i except that the view of Satan does differ between jews, Rabbi Skobac does speak of him being really rather good though. "There is no free will without the inclination to do wrong. However, many have said that HaSatan has been overzealous in his task. Only God is perfect." i 100% agree with ONLY GOD IS PERFECT, and i would be one of those that see satan as overzealous, i kind of even share the xtian view that those that have been tricked are kept on the books so to speak, they are the ones running the militry complex that will be ceased in the messianic age... even dragging out the Israel conflic to inspier hatred of Israel. but hey, 2 jews 3 opinians right ! that is just mine. i see free will as having a much larger scope than of just doing right and wrong.... we have choices to make all day long, do i turn left or do i turn right, should i do a burn out or a doughunt, should i go to the birthday party or just stay home, ect ect i also a price to be paid if the free will is not used for good in the sence of doing right and wrong, is it totally free if it has a price to pay or a consequence for using it wrong? it is even an investment if used for good. Steve (DCLM)

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