Hi Sophiee, Dougg, once again Jsus has nothing to do with the Mount of Olies or Zechriah's prophecy. Yet again the actual prophecy shows clearly that Jsus was NOT the messiah. Read it without the prism -- the carnival mirrors. The clarity is striking.

Well, I have a nt passage in Acts1 that says that Jesus is returning to the Mt. of Olives and that he will be returning as King of kings in Revelation - which is the rationale for my belief.

What have you got that counters 1 Samuel 10:17-19, that says the Children of Israel rejected God as king (implied in the verses)?

The requirement from the source you copied and pasted cited universal knowledge of God in Zechariah 14:9, (after the Mt. of Olives is split), as being something that the messiah will bring to the world.

The messiah cannot bring universal knowledge to the world aforehand - or else that would nullify verse 14:9, right?

Too bad for Judaism's argument that there is no mention of a man-king messiah bringing universal knowledge of God anywhere in Zechariah 14. But it does say that the Lord is going to be recognized as King over the entire earth in that day unlike now.

You can edit this paragraph out, Sophiee, my point to you personally: No man-king messiah in Zechariah 14, while the nt says Jesus is returning as Lord of lords and King of kings, and in 1Samuel10:17-19 it says that Israel rejected God as king, and Judaism rejects that Jesus is the Lord from heaven, and it says in your bible that the builders, the Jews, rejected the cornerstone, while in the nt it says that we are the temple of God because we are born again, whereby the Holy Spirit enters us...because we say that Jesus is the cornerstone of the temple made without human hands....that is, us.

Is not all of those messiah "must do's" a set of checks to prevent the Jews from repeating past mistakes like bar-Kochba?

All I am doing is agreeing with your source that the universal worldwide knowledge of God cannot be achieved until after the Mt. of Olives is split - so that Jews here don't make a colossal mistake regarding the messiah.

I am not going to win an argument, except by some miracle, - at this point in time - regarding that set of verses Zechariah is about Jesus returning, okay? I realize that, but you should put your thinking cap on should mainstream Judaism start jumping up and down like the Lubavitchers did with the Rebbe.... before the Mt. of Olives is split....about claiming someone is the messiah.

Peace,

Doug L.