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Gretta,
Doug, the reasoning used is called Appeal to Belief. It is a fallacy.
The majority claims that "y" is true; therfore "y" is true.
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"The disciples believed 100% what they stated about Jesus was true, therefore their statements were true."
Not the same. You restated but misrepresented. It was not a belief but an experience in their particular case. They did not hear about Jesus, nor read about Jesus - he was right there with them after having risen from the grave. And it was not merely a majority, but 100%.
A majority of people followed Rev. Jim Jones and a majority commited mass suicide, does this make what Rev. Jim Jones promoted as true?
That was a belief because Jim Jones used only words. And 100% did not believe him.
A large portion of Knights Templars were burned at the stake, does this make all of their actions, policies, and activities as "truths"?
No, and 100% of the knights who went to free the holy land from the muslims didn't get into the Templars occultist beliefs.
Joan of Arc followed her beliefs and convictions. Charles VII supported her. She was executed. Does this make the visions and voices that she heard true?
She had a set of principles that she believed in - not equivalent to the disciples experiencing the risen Jesus, who was present with them, and they experiencing watching him ascend to heaven.
Doug L.
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