Doug -
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8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

Then Jesus said, based upon that principle - because God is certainly not a man, who the two were in his case.

8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Just some observations about the above:

- So, according to John 8:17, yeshu did not consider himself a Jew since he said "written in your Law". A Jew would have referred to the Torah as "our law".

- In the same verse, it appears also that yeshu didn't consider himself as G-d [G-d forbid!], otherwise he would have referred to the Torah as "My Law", or even "my Father's Law".

- Paraphrasing John 8:18, "I am my own witness, and my daddy is the other witness". I'd love to hear what a judge would say if a defendant were to say this. It wouldn't hold up in any court of law.

- According to "our Law", the two witnesses are required to testify in person, "... at the mouth of two witnesses ..." [Deut 19:15], which is not the case here (did "the Father" say anything that the others heard?).

UriYosef