Arikm, YOu only hear what you want to hear and see waht you want to see. <snip> I gave you PROOF that rebutts the erroneous points that you made. <snip personal attack>.... Moses WAS not Israel's PERSONAL intercessor.

I never commented that Moses was an intercessor for individuals, one on one, in the same manner we Christians believe Jesus is. So we can set that objection aside.

While Moses did plead Israel's case before G-d (and this was before the office of the High Priest was established) NONETHELESS, if you would have actually read the texts instead of dismissing anything that didn't fit your xian bill, you would have seen that G-d told Israel that those that sin bore their own offense.

Israel was not on top of the mountain with God - it was Moses. God told Moses there on the mountain, not Israel. So you got that wrong.

Sophiee made the right quote. And every Christian out there agrees that we are personally responsible for our own sins and the repercussions thereof. It is fundamental to the Christian belief. God made that clear...


32:32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.


God responded to Moses with His immovable position. The book is the book of eternal life, not this earthly life. It applies to everyone, including Moses.

I don't know what Judaism thinks in regards to whether the book is the book of eternally life or not. Maybe Sophiee will comment.

Israel still had to do its own soul work. EACH Israelite had to stand before G-d. As the 3000 of the mixed multitude were already taken care of the sin Israel was faced with was the fact that they did not uphold the commandments that G-d had given them (they had orignally were given the Ten Statements as they are called in Hebrew)

Besides the fact that Israel was not on top of the mountain there with Moses, who was pleading on their behalf for the sins they had committed, specifically which one of those original Ten Commandments had the Children of Israel violated? Which one did Aaron violate?

If my posts are "all over the place" maybe it's not me....<snip>...not mine.

I will just say that, like sin, you are responsible for your own posts, and leave it at that.

Doug L.