Who killed whom
2000 years ago, as Christians would like us to believe; a person by the name of Jesus was born. He worked miracles which there were plenty of miracle workers in those days, and was supposed to be the messiah.
The job description for the messiah role was that he was supposed to come from the line of David, which God had ended long years before, he was supposed to have routed Israels enemies, gathered all the Jews back into Israel, and eternal peace was to reign supreme.
Back in those days, there were a number of people vying for the role of messiah all with equally dismal success.
Our man Jesus claimed that he was God incarnate, son of God but wholly connected with God as one. His mother was supposed to have been a virgin and here it gets dicey because no one can decided if it was Mary, or her husband Joseph, who was supposed to be from the line of David which God had already squashed.
According to the Christians Jesus was supposed to be the sin offering to God (himself) and died after being crucified.
According to the Christians mankind carried the sin of disobedience inherited, carte blanch, from Eve and Adam. The Old Testament does not really mention all of mankind being cursed because of this act. Anyhow, Jesus was supposed to be sacrificed to God (himself) for something God never hated us for in the first place.
During the life time of Jesus, he committed a number of deeds that truly do not cast a good light on him being the messiah. He lies a few times, shows complete contempt for his mother, etc., etc. etc. He then makes a terrible scene at the temple which was not cool and hurts a number of innocent victims along the way. So much for following the commandments set out by himself as God.
Jesus was executed under the laws of Rome. Jesus being a male human knew that the sin sacrifice was supposed to be an unblemished female ewe. We have some gender and species issues under Jewish Law given by God/Jesus. Then there is the matter that he was not perfect the last time I looked at my circumcision, I found scar tissue thats been with me for a very long time ago.
The Jews were forced to take the rap for the execution and have paid the price ever since. So let us examine several counter points.
If Jesus is the son of God/God incarnate, he knew he was coming down to earth for the sole purposed of being whacked. He, as God, put himself in Israel. And he knew exactly what he was doing and the end result was the horrible things done to Jews. Jesus attempted the wholesale destruction of Judaism through his gospels.
Only God can decide who will be a Jew whose soul is worthy of the very religion of Judaism. Is it logical that Jesus so hated his own kind that he, as God, keeps making Jews and simultaneously tries to kill them? I think Nazi Germany is the answer to the question.
Jesus, through his gospels, states he came to cause problems division within households, within marriages, within families. Why would Jesus/God come down to make a mockery of everything he is supposed to stand for, i.e. love, respect, and harmony?
If Jesus was God, why does he answer the question regarding handicapped people as a demonstration of his power? Why would Jesus/God get his jollies from hurting and harming innocent people and children?
And as a warped end, he agrees to and helps Rome to let the Jews take the blame for his crucifixion. Jesus/God foresaw the raging anti-Semitism on the morrows, he saw the ovens of Nazi Germany, he saw the pogroms, he saw the bloodshed and the heart aches.
Why didnt Jesus/God cause, with the flick of a wrist, to end Judaism right on the spot rather than letting Jews be born if he found us so despicable? Is it Gods way to create Jewish babies, force them into a decision, or face whatever comes next? That seems rather sadistic.
Something else, during the trial in front of Pilate, Pilate asks Jesus/God if he is the messiah Jesus/God doesnt even that the forthrightness to state that his is, although he had been telling people all the way along that he was. Is Jesus/God a whimp before a judge, or is he trying to cop a plea to get out of his assigned role in life?
Or was Jesus simply a mortal man trying to be king? Up until the Council at Nicea, in 325 CE, he was only a man. He was voted to deity status by the council.
Jesus as God is not the loving person Christians make him out to be. Jesus helped destroy the very people God took out of Egypt. He certainly did not rescue the Jews as foretold in the prophecies he came to trash them over and over again.
He created a faith that has so much bloodshed on its hands that nothing can ever wash it away. He created a faith that now dishonestly tries to convince people that it is the true Judaism. From the witch trials, to the holocaust, to the starvation of the Native American Indians, to the Christian people of Eron and Worldcom who stole millions and demolishing the retirement accounts of their own employees. From the White House that has lied repeatedly and brought about a war yet claims to be a Reborn Christian.
He created a faith that has lied for the last 2000 years. We, the Jews, did not kill Jesus.
Now ask yourselves why Jews want nothing to do with your Jesus.
2000 years ago, as Christians would like us to believe; a person by the name of Jesus was born. He worked miracles which there were plenty of miracle workers in those days, and was supposed to be the messiah.
The job description for the messiah role was that he was supposed to come from the line of David, which God had ended long years before, he was supposed to have routed Israels enemies, gathered all the Jews back into Israel, and eternal peace was to reign supreme.
Back in those days, there were a number of people vying for the role of messiah all with equally dismal success.
Our man Jesus claimed that he was God incarnate, son of God but wholly connected with God as one. His mother was supposed to have been a virgin and here it gets dicey because no one can decided if it was Mary, or her husband Joseph, who was supposed to be from the line of David which God had already squashed.
According to the Christians Jesus was supposed to be the sin offering to God (himself) and died after being crucified.
According to the Christians mankind carried the sin of disobedience inherited, carte blanch, from Eve and Adam. The Old Testament does not really mention all of mankind being cursed because of this act. Anyhow, Jesus was supposed to be sacrificed to God (himself) for something God never hated us for in the first place.
During the life time of Jesus, he committed a number of deeds that truly do not cast a good light on him being the messiah. He lies a few times, shows complete contempt for his mother, etc., etc. etc. He then makes a terrible scene at the temple which was not cool and hurts a number of innocent victims along the way. So much for following the commandments set out by himself as God.
Jesus was executed under the laws of Rome. Jesus being a male human knew that the sin sacrifice was supposed to be an unblemished female ewe. We have some gender and species issues under Jewish Law given by God/Jesus. Then there is the matter that he was not perfect the last time I looked at my circumcision, I found scar tissue thats been with me for a very long time ago.
The Jews were forced to take the rap for the execution and have paid the price ever since. So let us examine several counter points.
If Jesus is the son of God/God incarnate, he knew he was coming down to earth for the sole purposed of being whacked. He, as God, put himself in Israel. And he knew exactly what he was doing and the end result was the horrible things done to Jews. Jesus attempted the wholesale destruction of Judaism through his gospels.
Only God can decide who will be a Jew whose soul is worthy of the very religion of Judaism. Is it logical that Jesus so hated his own kind that he, as God, keeps making Jews and simultaneously tries to kill them? I think Nazi Germany is the answer to the question.
Jesus, through his gospels, states he came to cause problems division within households, within marriages, within families. Why would Jesus/God come down to make a mockery of everything he is supposed to stand for, i.e. love, respect, and harmony?
If Jesus was God, why does he answer the question regarding handicapped people as a demonstration of his power? Why would Jesus/God get his jollies from hurting and harming innocent people and children?
And as a warped end, he agrees to and helps Rome to let the Jews take the blame for his crucifixion. Jesus/God foresaw the raging anti-Semitism on the morrows, he saw the ovens of Nazi Germany, he saw the pogroms, he saw the bloodshed and the heart aches.
Why didnt Jesus/God cause, with the flick of a wrist, to end Judaism right on the spot rather than letting Jews be born if he found us so despicable? Is it Gods way to create Jewish babies, force them into a decision, or face whatever comes next? That seems rather sadistic.
Something else, during the trial in front of Pilate, Pilate asks Jesus/God if he is the messiah Jesus/God doesnt even that the forthrightness to state that his is, although he had been telling people all the way along that he was. Is Jesus/God a whimp before a judge, or is he trying to cop a plea to get out of his assigned role in life?
Or was Jesus simply a mortal man trying to be king? Up until the Council at Nicea, in 325 CE, he was only a man. He was voted to deity status by the council.
Jesus as God is not the loving person Christians make him out to be. Jesus helped destroy the very people God took out of Egypt. He certainly did not rescue the Jews as foretold in the prophecies he came to trash them over and over again.
He created a faith that has so much bloodshed on its hands that nothing can ever wash it away. He created a faith that now dishonestly tries to convince people that it is the true Judaism. From the witch trials, to the holocaust, to the starvation of the Native American Indians, to the Christian people of Eron and Worldcom who stole millions and demolishing the retirement accounts of their own employees. From the White House that has lied repeatedly and brought about a war yet claims to be a Reborn Christian.
He created a faith that has lied for the last 2000 years. We, the Jews, did not kill Jesus.
Now ask yourselves why Jews want nothing to do with your Jesus.
