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Rabbi Slams Back At Jews For Jsus

by Baruch Gordon


(IsraelNN.com) Outreach Judaism, a leading counter-missionary organization based in New York, has launched a new website, www.OutreachJudaism.org, offering a free, exhaustive library of information regarding Jews for Jsus multimillion dollar worldwide missionary campaigns, including a point-by-point audio response to their plans to convert Jews to Chrstianity.

Rabbi Tovia Singer, founder of Outreach Judaism and show host on Israel National Radio, is now making available his 20-part tape series, Lets get Biblical free via mp3 download to anyone seeking answers to questions posed by Chrstian missionaries.

The tape series, which has been available until now for cost, has hit the missionary effort head-on. Rabbi Singer has numerous letters from Messianic Jews who after hearing his series returned to authentic Judaism. Threatened by Singer's initiative, Jews For Jsus formulated a plan to mitigate the impact of Singer's audio series: the organization dedicated part of its website to answering points that Singer raises. Rabbi Singer, in return, refutes their counter arguments on his Outreach Judaism site.

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Jews for Jsus has launched a deceptive campaign to convert the most susceptible segments of our community to their ranks, said Rabbi Singer. In their spiritual assault on Jewish communities in the US, Israel and Europe, Jews for Jsus deliberately blurs the distinctions between Judaism and Chrstianity in order to lure Jews who would otherwise resist a straightforward Chrstian message. Now, Jews worldwide finally have the answers to Jews for Jsus claims at their fingertips.

Jews for Jsus has declared their staggering goals, stated Rabbi Singer. According to their marketing materials, Jews for Jsus exists, To make the messiahship of Jsus an unavoidable issue to our Jewish people worldwide.

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As part of their recent effort to convert the Jewish elderly in New York, Jews for Jsus distributed more than 80,000 copies of a conversionist film translated into Yiddish to homes in Brooklyn, Queens and Monsey, New York.

Jews for Jsus is expanding its efforts to convert survivors of the Holocaust. The testimonials of those who managed to survive the Holocaust, yet became ensnared by the Baptist missionary group are broadcast on the Jews for Jsus website.

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This spiritual war against the most vulnerable members of our community is deeply troubling, and cannot go unanswered, says Rabbi Singer. Outreach Judaism is responding to Jews for Jsus unyielding assault upon the Jewish faith with point-by-point answers to their arguments. This is an all-out, no-holds-barred spiritual war instigated by Jews for Jesus that Outreach Judaism is responding to with an effective response."

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The audio series is available for free mp3 download at www.OutreachJudaism.org.

We may have been visited by J. P. Holding aka Robert Turkel in Proverbs 30, Daniel 3, Psalm 110 . Here is another thread where his arguments on Animal Sacrifices were shredded.

What makes you think that the oral Torah is extra-Biblical? The ones who have an extra (actually totally outside and distortion) of the Torah is Chrstianity.

Since you like Michael Brown so much, let's take this from his attacks on the oral Torah -- saying that modern Judaism (aka Rabbinical Judaism) isn't TRUE Judaism but has been "made up" along the way somehow.

Total nonsense of course.

Brown insists (for example) that if the bible says go left and the rabbis say go right the Jews will go right. Can he show even ONE Rabbinical fence that changes the written Torah? Well, to date he hasn't done so. There is a good reason he hasn't -- there aren't any.

There is NOTHING in the oral tradition that changes the written Torah. The Torah makes it clear that we are not to add to or subtract from it. The oral law merely tells us HOW to follow the written one. Brown is flat out lying here (out of ignorance or deceit I cannot say). Not only does Moses say "listen to the Rabbis" but so does Jsus in the GT! Yet, Brown here is contradicting Jsus (whom he claims to follow) who clearly said "listen to the Rabbis, they sit in Moses' seat."

Two good articles to read on how fraudulent is Brown's claim are found on Being Jewish. Haven't Rabbis Changed the Laws? and The Indispensable Oral Law.

He also says there is no such thing as the oral law in the Torah and yet again the Rabbis "made it up."

Well, hopefully in the past few posts you've seen that Brown is great at making claims but that they are not supported by the bible. Neither is this assertion.

The oral law is mentioned in the written bible.

Ex 12:49 "The same Torah shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you."

This can't be the written Torah -- it didn't EXIST yet. Moses hasnt been to Sinai yet! So the Torah is the oral one. The Torah is spoken of again in Exodus 13:9, 16:4:

I will test them to see whether or not they will keep My Torah.

What Torah? They are in the desert eating mana. They haven't yet made it to Sinai - there is NO WRITTEN TORAH. What Torah is G-d speaking of???

Read Exodus 24:12

ויאמר ה' אל משה עלה אליי ההרה והיה שם ואתנה לך את לוחות האבן והתורה והמצווה אשר כתבתי להורותם

And HaShem said to Moshe: Come up unto me on the mountain and remain ('be') there. I shall give to you the stone tablets, the Torah, and the Mitzvah, which I have written [for you] to teach them.

Write these words for YOURSELF.

Hashem tells Moshe first "write for yourself these things," and then says "for according to (al pi) these things I have made a covenant with you and the Children and Israel. This quote tells us both to write it down transmit it orally. The literal meaning of al pi is to teach by word of mouth.

The ORAL LAW that Brown insists isn't Biblical has been mentioned in Exodus 24:12, in Exodus 13:9, in Exodus 16:4 and many, many more.

There is a very good article on the subject at Being Jewish.

The written Torah will often tell us to do things, and the "how" to do it is not explained in the written Torah. It will say "do it as I told you."

This alone shows that the "how" to follow the instructions was always oral.

It is impossible to even READ the Torah without an oral law! There are no vowels in the Torah!! To even read Hebrew one must learn from the oral law.

The Babylonian Talmud tells a story of a man who wanted to convert to Judaism. He went to Rabbi Hillel and said:

"Convert me on condition that I accept the Written but not the Oral Law."

Poor Hillel. First he had to put up with a fool who wanted to learn Torah while standing on one foot, and then this fool shows up. But Hillel had patience and he didn't even argue. He agreed to teach the man.

The first day, Hillel taught him the first four letters of the Hebrew alphabet: aleph, bet, gimel, dalet.

The next day the man came back and this time Hillel taught him the same letters in reverse order: dalet, gimel, bet, aleph.

"But yesterday," protested the man, "you taught me the opposite."

"You see," said Hillel, "you have to rely on me even to learn the alphabet. Rely on me also when it comes to the Oral Law." (Shabbat 31a).

How would your Brown have been able to learn Hebrew (as rudimentary as his knowledge is) Torah without the oral law? He couldn't have.

From the Being Jewish link:

To demonstrate, I will cite some examples of Laws from the Written Torah that are completely incomprehensible without knowledge of the Oral Tradition.

When the Bible tells us (Lev. 20:14) to take together four species on the first day of Succos, which four species are meant, and what are we supposed to do with them?

The prohibition of Chelev (fat) (Lev. 7:24) leaves us uninformed as to which fat is included in the category of Chelev, and which are Shumin (fat) and therefore permitted.

Which blood is forbidden, (Lev. 7:26) and how do we purge the meat of it?

What are Totaphot? (Ex. 13:16) If that means Tefillin, what exactly are Tefillin? How are they made, and how are they "bound as a sign upon your hand?"

Which work is forbidden on the Sabbath, and which is permitted?

"You shall not cook a young animal in its mother's milk" is stated three times in the Bible. Why? The Oral Law explains why. It also explains the seemingly odd wording of the commandment.

Most Hebrew words change their meaning when pronounced differently. Without the Oral Tradition, how can we determine the true meaning of the words of the Hebrew Scriptures, written as they were without vowels?

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my question is when did moses receive the oral torah? and why does a jewish source say it was given at the time of Sinai?

Moshe received both the written and oral Torah that we have today at Sinai. G‑d told Moshe that He will give him "the Torah and the commandments." (Exodus 24:12).

Moshe Rabinue was not the FIRST to receive the Torah. The word "torah" means "instruction" and it is used throughout the Torah which is, itself, a set of instructions.

G-d had been giving instructions to man since He created man. Mankind prior to Abraham were given seven instructions, and we know that Abraham and the other patriarchs followed the Torah -- and nope, they didn't have the written one either.

The fact that the written Torah did not yet exist in Exodus 12:49 is proof that the oral preceded it. You seem to be confusing Moshe's receiving of the oral and written Torot as the beginning point of the Torah's existence. The Torah is the blueprint of the world and predates even Adam. The Torah begins with the word "bereshit." "In the beginning of G-d's creation of the heavens nad the earth." Our sages tell us that the word reisht often refers to the Torah in the T'nach. Therefore we are being told that "with the Torah, G-d created the heavens and the earth."

As you pointed out the written Torah doesn't yet exist, yet the Torah itself constantly uses the term prior to Sinai:

Ex 12:49 "The same Torah shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you."

Exodus 13:9, 16:4:

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Exodus 16:28

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16:28 G-d told Moshe [to say to the Israelites], 'How long will you refuse to keep My commandments and My Torah?

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Exodus 18. Moshe's father in law (Jethro) tells Moshe to appoint judges saying:

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Exodus 18:19-20 You must be G-d's representative for the people, and bring [their] concerns to G-d. 18:20 Clarify the decrees and laws for [the people]. Show them the path they must take, and the things they must do.

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The Hebrew for the word translated as law is ha torot (the Torahs).

Your confusion of "how can there be an oral Torah when Moshe hasn't been to Sinai" is caused from ignorance -- thinking that the Torah didn't exist prior to the giving of the Torah to Moshe at Sinai. The fact is that there IS a Torah prior to the giving of the tablets at Sinai. Prior to Moshe receiving the oral Torah as well.

Now lets move along to when G-d gives Moshe the tablets, and the written instructions for HIMSELF (Moshe). Read Exodus 24:12 -- read the entire verse (though it does not change the meaning of the citation):

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And HaShem said to Moshe: Come up unto me on the mountain and remain ('be') there. I shall give to you the stone tablets, the Torah, and the Mitzvah, which I have written [for you] to teach them.

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Again, Moshe was to receive the tablets of the covenant (luhot ha-brit) that HaShem wrote on stone. The Torah refers to the written Torah, and the Mitzvah refers to the "how-to" of Torah observance. Which I have written refers to the written Torah; for you to teach them refers to the oral Torah (Mishnah).

Write these words for yourself, for according to these [oral] words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.` (Exodus 34:27).

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Vayomer Adonay el-Moshe ktov-lecha et-hadevarim ha'eleh ki al-pi hadevarim ha'eleh karati itcha brit ve'et-Yisra'el.

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Write these words for YOURSELF. Not for Israel. Not for the people, but for himself!

HaShem tells Moshe first "write for yourself these things," and then says "for according to (al pi) these things I have made a covenant with you and the Children and Israel. This quote tells us both to write it down transmit it orally. The literal meaning of al pi is to teach by word of mouth.

The Jewish sages tell us that from Exodus 34:27 we learn that things that are written down may not be recited by heart, and things that are meant to be transmitted orally may not be written down.

Go to a Synagogue and you will see the Torah being READ, not recited from memory.

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This teaches that laws received as oral traditions may not be recited from written texts (i.e., you are not allowed to commit them to writing), and those that are written [the Pentateuch, Prophets, and Hagiographa, which together are called the Tanach] may not be recited orally (that is, from memory). R. Yehuda b. Nachmani,

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The Midrash relates the following (Shemot Rabbah 47:1):

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"Write for yourself these words, because based on these words I made a covenant with Yisrael." (Shemot 34:27) This is similar to the verse, "I will write for them most of My Torah; they were regarded as something alien." (Hoshea 8:12) When Hashem appeared to Moshe on Sinai to give Yisrael the Torah, He taught Moshe the Torah, Mishna, Talmud, and Aggada as it says, "G-d spoke all of these statements" (Shemot 20:1) -- even what a student asks his teacher was taught to Moshe at that time. After he learned all of this from the mouth of Hashem, Hashem instructed Moshe to teach it to Yisrael. Moshe said to Hashem, "Master of the world, I will write it down for them." Hashem responded, "I do not want to give it to them in writing, because it is revealed to me that idol worshippers will rule over them and take it from them, and they will be disgraced by the idolators. I will give them the written Torah, but the Mishna, Talmud, and Aggada, will be given to them orally. Therefore, if the idol worshippers enslave Yisrael, Yisrael will remain separate from them." That is what Hashem meant when he said to the prophet (Hoshea) "[If] I will write for them most of My Torah; they were regarded as something alien." What will I do for Yisrael? I will give them the written Torah, and the Mishna, Talmud and Aggada orally. "Write for yourself these words" -- of the written Torah; "because based on these words I made a covenant" -- this refers to the oral Talmud which separates Yisrael from the idol worshippers.

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The first half of the verse talks of a written version("Transcribe..."), while the rest speaks of the oral version (al pi) of teaching and transmitting Torah. When we speak of Torah we speak of: "she-bikhtav" (written) and "she-be'al peh" (oral) both of which are mentioned in this verse.

Deuteronomy 4:13

(HaShem) told you of His covenant that He commanded you to observe, the Ten Declarations, and He inscribed them on two stone tablets. 14 HaShem commanded me at that time to teach you decrees and ordinances. . .

TEACH you. Orally. Sitting down and reading the book was not sufficient. Teaching (explaining the laws aka the oral law) is told time and time again in the written Torah.

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Exodus 18:20 Teach them the decrees and laws, and show them the way to live and the duties they are to perform.

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Teach them orally! The decrees AND laws. What is the difference? One is oral and one is written.

Isnt teaching explaining what the written says? Giving detail that is missing?

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Exodus 35:34 And he has given both him and Oholiab son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan, the ability to teach others.

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Leviticus 10:11 and you must teach the Israelites all the decrees HaShem has given them through Moshe"

Deuteronomy 4:1 Hear now, O Israel, the decrees and laws I am about to teach you.

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Joshua 22:5 But be very careful to keep the commandment and the law that Moshe the servant of HaShem gave you

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Commandments and laws. Two things, not one.

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Deuteronomy 4:9 Only be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the things your eyes have seen or let them slip from your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and to their children after them.

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Teach your children what YOUR eyes have seen. Not what is written in the Torah, but what they heard and saw for themselves and what was taught to them by Moshe. The ORAL law.

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Deuteronomy 4:10 Remember the day you stood before HaShem your G-d at Horeb, when he said to me, "Assemble the people before me to hear my words so that they may learn to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children."

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The laws that Moshe taught (not just wrote down in the written Torah) were to be passed down:

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Deuteronomy 4:14 And HaShem directed me at that time to teach you the decrees and laws you are to follow in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess

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Deuteronomy 5:31 But you stay here with me so that I may give you all the commands, decrees and laws you are to teach them to follow in the land I am giving them to possess."

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Not to give them to read. If they were all in the written Torah what is the need to teach them?

And dont forget that Moshe goes on to tell the Israelites to LISTEN to the teachers. He tells us that they sit in his (Moshe) place and we must listen to their explanation of the written laws because they possess the knowledge.

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Deuteronomy 17: 11 Act according to the law they teach you and the decisions they give you. Do not turn aside from what they tell you, to the right or to the left.

Long winded I know, but I wanted to make it clear to you that the oral mitzvot are and always have been part of the Torah. It is quite literally impossible to follow the mitzvot in the Torah without the oral explanations that go along with it.

Not sure what you were trying to rebut, but hopefully now you'll see where you went astray on thinking there was some contradiction in there being a Torah prior to the giving of the written Torah at Sinai. G-d had been communicating with Abraham, with Isaac and with Jacob -- and even with Shem (Noah's son) and Shem's grandson, Ever. The Torah is the blueprint of the world and existed long before man was created and long before Moshe on Sinai.

The purpose of the oral Torah is to explain the "how to fulfill" the brief mitzvot that are given in the written Torah. How do you keep the Sabbath? How do you keep kosher? The details are not found in the written Torah, but they are in the oral. If you have more questions feel free to ask them, but please start a new thread. Thanks.

You might want to read "The Oral Tradition" .