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Excellent verse that proves G-d is not a man |
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Posts: 78 (09/21/09 18:12:05) |
1Kings 8:27
"But will G-d indeed dwell on the earth? Behold the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain You; much less this temple that I (Solomon) have erected." |
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Posts: 3 (10/30/09 00:10:25) |
This is significant, I haven't written on this myself, but Christian doctrine is that the Nazarene is the "fullness of the deity in bodily form"
(I cant remember chapter and verse...or book for that matter, its bad enough I can remember the verse itself in a variety of translations :( ) It is not simply
that they believe Nazarene was the deity manifest, Christianity teaches that the entirety of the deity was manifest in human form (in some sense at least).
This verse contradicts the possibility of such a notion.
Incidentally, it seems to me that this verse gives us an answer to the philosophical challenges to G-d's omnipotence, "can G-d make a rock so big He can't lift" and so forth. He "cannot" but only insofar as it is a limitation of the world. The world cannot contain G-d....there are things which are impossible for creation because that is how He made it. G-d could make a world where contradictories coeixist, and the impossible is possible...but He didn't. Yirmeyahu teshuvashaminim.com |
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Posts: 52 (10/30/09 08:54:13) |
I hear a Jew say that G-d hasn't/doesn't/will not(or perhaps, can't) take human form.
Then comes the question from the Xian, "Why can't He?" I'd like to know the philosophical/logical reason why G-d can't do this. If there really isn't such a reason, would it be fair to say that G-d could take human form, but Hebrew Scripture says that He hasn't/doesn't/will not do this? So- ala the title of this post- only "verses"(from the Hebrew Scriptures) "prove" that G-d [hasn't/doesn't/will not become] a man? |
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Posts: 12878 (10/30/09 09:13:39) Moderator |
G-d can't stop being G-d. He is infinite and the infinite can't be finite.
Also keep in mind that G-d has said what He will and will not do. G-d has stated that He is not a man. G-d has stated that He does not change. G-d has said that He is what He will be. Quote:Exodus 3:14. G-d said to Moses, Quote:Ehyeh asher ehyeh -- I am as I was as I will always be. It doesn't mean that G-d will change into something in the future (aka Jsus). It means He is UNCHANGING and thus the opposite of the idea given in your post that G-d's character changed into Jsus. Quote:and the most clear one of all: Quote:and again proving that Jsus doesn't fit into the possibility of the One and Only G-d. Quote:There is only ONE, not three in one: Quote: Quote:There is no one like Me is the key to the last quote. How could G-d be finite and a man if there is "no one like Me"? As Aish puts it: Link. In the GT it is obvious that Jsus doesn't know certain things -- and yet Chrstians think he is a god. He speaks of the father knowing more, which means he is separate from the father. . . these are some of the problems one runs into when one begins to limit the limitless. Make sense?
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And everything that Sarah tells you, listen to her voice. Bereshit (Genesis) 21:12
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