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Quote:Jesus word is in red
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Mon, 7-Jan-08 14:28:48
Quote:For you to SEE/KNOW Jesus is God requires that you understand the TANACH to a VERY HIGH LEVEL -and that requires the Holy Spirit.
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Mon, 7-Jan-08 14:46:41
Quote:Amazing interpretation of my post !! I admit though, this post (like the tanach) is prone to all kinds of SUBJECTIVE interpretation. But there are OBJECTIVE readers out there.
Quote:I'm not sure you understand me. The words of Jesus are seperate and distinct from the disciples opinion/analysis e.gMatthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?Jesus word is in red, the rest is Matthew's opinion/interpretation. The disciples opinion/exegesis are 50:50 means they could be right or wrong -they are NOT INFALLIBLE. e.g every case of Matthew's "thus it is fulfilled" is Matthew's opinion and could be wrong or right. Hope this clarifies.
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Mon, 7-Jan-08 21:47:13
Quote:Folah: For you to SEE/KNOW Jesus is God requires that you understand the TANACH to a VERY HIGH LEVEL -and that requires the Holy Spirit.
Quote:nic: How do I get that spirit?
Quote: Uri: When translated into simple English ( ), this means that only Christians who accept yeshu as "G-d", i.e., Christians who are filled with the HS, really understand the Tanach.
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Quote:Most Jews consider the Holy Spirit to be a thoroughly Christian concept. "The designation of the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, stems from a Hebrew figure of speech, the ruah ha-qodesh ("holy spirit" ) . In Jewish usage, however, this concept was never identified with a separate person, but with a Divine power which could fill men, as, for instance, the prophets." - The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1943, 1969, see: "Trinity", pp. 308. See also: Shekhinah. In Genesis 1:2 there is the reference to a "wind of God" (ruah elohim) which hovers over the face of the waters at the moment of Creation; until the mid-1st millennium CE this was translated by Jews as "wind", as the context demands (cf. the comparable "wind from God" which blows over the waters in Genesis 8 ) , but later came to be translated as "spirit of God" under the influence of Christianity.
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Quote:How do I get that spirit? Folah78Fast for 7 days straight and Hashem will show you how. Shalom
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