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Wed, 9-Jan-08 02:00:54
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Quote:you still seem to be excluding the Jewish people from being able to have 'high understanding' of their own scrip-tures.
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Wed, 9-Jan-08 07:42:11
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Quote:Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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Wed, 9-Jan-08 11:25:27
Quote:The highlighted statement would be correct only if there are no Jewish Chrstian ! -isn't that what this website is about.
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Wed, 9-Jan-08 11:27:56
Quote:Of course - we Jews have missed out on all those obvious types and shadows and focused too much on the the plain meaning of scripture.
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Wed, 9-Jan-08 11:49:36
Quote:I never said you'd receive anything !I said Hashem will show you how.Are you familiar with the phrase "inquire from/of the Lord" -that's what Daniel did in Daniel 9 that's what I am suggesting you do.
Quote:Fast for 7 days straight and Hashem will show you how. Shalom
Quote:folah, where in your greek book is the requirement to fast for "7 straight days" to be shown how to "get" the xian holy spirit? what xian denomination do you belong to?
Quote:Actually it's in your tanach !Remember Daniel 9 and the angel, if you go in to 7days fast in sincerity you might get that kind of response or something even better.
Quote:I never said you'd receive anything !I said Hashem will show you how.
Wed, 9-Jan-08 13:38:48
Quote:Seriously though, there are some (Jews and non-Jews) who reached that level of understanding. The amazing thing is most of them (that I know) are ordinary folks.
Wed, 9-Jan-08 13:45:26
Quote:The highlighted statement would be correct only if there are no Jewish Christian !
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Fri, 11-Jan-08 08:34:12
Quote:Pninah responded on 1/8/08 at 5:26 am:Quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------folah, where in your greek book is the requirement to fast for "7 straight days" to be shown how to "get" the xian holy spirit? what xian denomination do you belong to? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Then you replied on 1/8/08 at 11:47 am:Quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Actually it's in your tanach !Remember Daniel 9 and the angel, if you go in to 7days fast in sincerity you might get that kind of response or something even better.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------You made a claim, Pninah asked you to show where the basis for this claim is, you then said the claim is based on Daniel 9, at which point I challenged you to produce the portion of Daniel 9 which forms the basis for this claim.Quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I never said you'd receive anything !I said Hashem will show you how.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------...is a deflection. It is a semantics-based rabbit trail that has nothing to do with my request of you. Plain and simple, show the basis in Daniel 9 for "7 days of fasting". If it is "from our very own Tanach", then this is not a request you shouldn't be able to accomodate. All I am asking is that you take responsibility for your claims and quote the corresponding verses from Daniel that back up what you are saying.Either do this or please acknowledge that Daniel 9 does not contain support for: "Fast for 7 days straight and Hashem will show you how."
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Sat, 12-Jan-08 19:53:42
Quote:Notice that I am not claiming to be an expert in Hebrew. I simply did a little research since you put the burden of proof on Folah to show that lama sabachthani is a real word. It is now incumbent on you to either prove that my research is incorrect or drop your claim.
Sun, 13-Jan-08 01:29:11
Quote:For those sincere enough to want to do more research on this, I am offering a little help. Lama sabachthani is a Hellenized form of the following Chaldee or Hebrew words:
Quote:(1) Mem He, that can be pronounced maw or mah, an exclamatory interrogative word that can mean what?!, how?! or why?!, with the addition of a prefix "la".
Quote:(2) Shin Beth Qoph, that can be pronounced Sh'vack, found in Ezra 6:7 that is translated "leave" or "let alone" in English. "thani" is alleged to be a pronoun suffix meaning "to me".
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