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Quote:That's what I like about your posts; there's a beginning and an end. It's the part in the middle that boggles the mind.
Quote:Okay, you are representing the Noachide view, I assume, since you are not a Jew...that's okay.... as long as you don't claim to be a Christian. I explained the Christian view, we will see how the prophecies play out.
Quote:ps this is a little off topic, but has your rabbi given you the three reasons you, in your particular case, should not convert to Judaism? I would like to know what those are, if you don't mind - when the time comes.
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Quote:Well, I would suggest to take your complaints to the God of Judaism and see what He says.
Thu, 13-Dec-07 23:23:38
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Fri, 14-Dec-07 07:20:51
Quote:In trying to attack Jesus, you have just found yourself with a powerful lot of teshuvah to do, in my opinion.
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Sun, 16-Dec-07 09:28:59
Quote:"Love your neighbour as yourself" and "Love your enemies" alone are enough for any true follower of Jesus NOT to commit any of those atrocities against the Jews just as "Do not touch My anointed ones, and do not harm My prophets"(1CH.16:22 JPT) should have been enough to make anyone (who fear God) treat any prophet like an eggshell.Therefore there's no guarantee any of the phrases proposed for Jesus would have worked.
Quote:The fact that Jesus did not use any of the proposed phrases or even outrightly prevent those atrocities if He could (Christians believe He can) is consistent with Hashem's behaviour. Hashem sometimes allow evil to happen for reasons we mortals don't FULLY know. However the worst that could happen to anyone is DEATH (Human POV) but to Hashem they merely went to SLEEP -He will WAKE His own to glory in the ressurection (Dan.12:2). No amount of pain God's people may suffer now (TEMPORARY) is comparable to that coming (ETERNAL) glory (Hashem's POV).
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Sun, 16-Dec-07 11:08:45
Quote:A wealthy king wanted to turn his kingdom over to his son, and wanted to do it while both were still alive. He had reason not to trust his son, so he devised a test. He told his son he had to remain chaste until his wedding, or he wouldn't inherit the kingsom. Then, the king went to a prostitute, who was also a very loyal subject. He offered her a million gold coins if she would seduce him son. She agreed to try. The king is of course Hashem, the son is man and the loyal prostitute is Satan. Satan obeys God and does his job 100%, as commanded, no matter how distasteful. Did the son fall for the temptation? A true Jewish parable has no ending
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Sun, 16-Dec-07 17:10:52
Quote:District Attorney ! How did you come about this -by Logic ?
Quote:It's hard to respond to your posts since you follow only LOGIC.
Sun, 16-Dec-07 19:30:26
Quote:Folah78Ok Arikm7, you be an advocate for these Jews and I'll be an advocate for the prophets. Wanna go at it ??
Sun, 16-Dec-07 20:08:54
Quote:I'm sure Gideon means "prosecutor" by his use of "district attorney". That is really what ha'Satan is in the Hebrew Bible - just read the Book of Job if you want to understand that notion.
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