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Thu, 27-Dec-07 12:34:18
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Quote:8 and last of all he appeared to me (Paul) also, as to one abnormally born.
Quote:6 "About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. 7 I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, 'Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?' 8" 'Who are you, L-rd?' I asked. " 'I am Jsus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,' he replied. 9 My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me.
Thu, 27-Dec-07 12:42:06
Quote:In John 7:10, which you say means Jsus went in secret, it says Jsus went "as it were" in secret (snip)
Quote:KJV: But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.NIV: However, after his brothers had left for the Feast, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.NASB: But when His (A)brothers had gone up to the feast, then He Himself also went up, not publicly, but as if, in secret.Young's Literal Translation: And when his brethren went up, then also he himself went up to the feast, not manifestly, but as in secret;NIRV: When his brothers had left for the Feast, he went also. But he went secretly, not openly.
Quote:John 7:11 Now at the Feast the Jews were watching for him and asking, "Where is that man?"
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Thu, 27-Dec-07 20:27:26
Quote:If I do that, please point it out to me.
Thu, 27-Dec-07 21:10:18
Quote:Acts 18:6 is a reference not only to Jsus instructions to shake off the dust but more centrally to Ezekiel 33:4-9, which obligates the prophet to warn the wicked man, or be guilty of his blood.
Quote:his blood will be upon his own head.
Quote:his blood will be upon him, for had he taken heed, he would have saved his life.
Quote:if you warned a wicked man from his way, to repent thereof, and he did not repent of his way-he will die for his iniquity, and you have saved your soul.
Posts: 195
Thu, 27-Dec-07 22:14:51
Quote:Vikkilyn, no one has ever denied that misunderstandings exist. The NT says that God is not the author of confusion. Therefore, confusions, including mine, have another author.
Quote:You are rejecting the NT because of your misunderstandings. They did atrocities because of their misunderstandings. Either way, the NT is blamed for what it does not say, or for what is taken completely out of context.
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Fri, 28-Dec-07 15:48:52
Fri, 28-Dec-07 15:55:35
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Fri, 28-Dec-07 17:07:53
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Quote:Ok, let's put the "satan as district attorney" LOGIC to a test.Daniel 1012. And he said to me "Fear not, Daniel, for since the first day that you set your heart to contemplate and to fast before your God, your words were heard, and I have come because of your words.13. And the prince of the kingdom of Persia has been standing against me for twenty-one days, and behold Michael, one of the first princes, has come to help, and I remained there beside the kings of Persia.
Quote:The prince of Persia here is not Ahmadinejad !! -or any human being for that matter. Who made this spirit prince of persia ??
Fri, 28-Dec-07 17:40:16
Fri, 28-Dec-07 18:16:52
Quote:Where do you dig up your twisted interpretations?
Fri, 28-Dec-07 18:38:38
Fri, 28-Dec-07 19:30:02
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Fri, 28-Dec-07 22:42:03
Quote:You cannot validly use disbelief in the NT to attack the NT.
Sat, 29-Dec-07 12:54:53
Quote:Folah78 Angels are spirit -that much is clear even in Judaism.
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Sat, 29-Dec-07 20:56:42
Sat, 29-Dec-07 22:39:50
Quote:Here's another verse I am at great disadvantage (of what the Hebrew bible teaches)Zechariah 149. And the Lord shall become King over all the earth; on that day shall the Lord be one, and His name one. (JPT)Since the whole of Zechariah 14 is in the FUTURE.Since satan is district attorney and not "ruler of this world" as at now.Since you say prince of persia (who resisted Gabriel) was appointed by the Hashem and not satan then:When was the Lord NOT king over the earth ?When has the Lord NOT been one ?When has the Lord's name NOT been one ?
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Mon, 31-Dec-07 11:32:25
Mon, 31-Dec-07 13:41:58
Mon, 31-Dec-07 14:10:42
Quote:Right. I cannot support the NT by my belief. What I am trying to do here is to show that the NT is internally consistent and is a valid interpretation of the Tanach. Then we can all concentrate on the real reasons for believing or disbelieving.
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Mon, 31-Dec-07 16:24:33
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