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Zvi wrote: In response to a poster, there is no such word as "Parishees" in any language. The rest of the post showed similar scholarship, regard for historical sources and reasoned analysis.
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Mon, 26-Aug-13 14:34:21
weboh wrote:"The foundation of Judaism is built upon a verifiable historical event, not an account of miraculous acts." Why do I believe this statement lacks merit?
Mon, 26-Aug-13 15:24:43
Zvi wrote: weboh wrote: "The foundation of Judaism is built upon a verifiable historical event, not an account of miraculous acts."Why do I believe this statement lacks merit?Because you do not understand it.
weboh wrote: "The foundation of Judaism is built upon a verifiable historical event, not an account of miraculous acts."Why do I believe this statement lacks merit?
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Tue, 27-Aug-13 03:07:49
weboh wrote:Zvi wrote: weboh wrote: "The foundation of Judaism is built upon a verifiable historical event, not an account of miraculous acts."Why do I believe this statement lacks merit?Because you do not understand it. But I do understand. You can't say Judaism exists without miraculous cause.
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Tue, 27-Aug-13 03:17:57
weboh wrote:As far as I am aware, the Greek word was φαρισαῖος. I would still be Par-ee-shai-ush ...
You seem to be making three mistakes in one word.IMHO, Φαρισαῖος should be pronounced Pharisaios – no "sh", no "…ush". Yet, in another topic you claim to be able to mop the floor with the professor in biblical Greek.
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weboh wrote:Pronounced Par-ee-sheh. Sigma is a soft sh s-sound, and Phi is actually a hard p-sound.
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The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the wonders that he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on wonders, [the commitment of] his heart has shortcomings, because it is possible to perform a wonder through magic or sorcery.
All the wonders performed by Moses in the desert were not intended to serve as proof [of the legitimacy] of his prophecy, but rather were performed for a purpose. It was necessary to drown the Egyptians, so he split the sea and sank them in it. We needed food, so he provided us with manna. We were thirsty, so he split the rock [providing us with water]. Korach's band mutinied against him, so the earth swallowed them up. The same applies to the other wonders.
What is the source of our belief in him? The [revelation] at Mount Sinai. Our eyes saw, and not a stranger's. Our ears heard, and not another's. There was fire, thunder, and lightning. He entered the thick clouds; the Voice spoke to him and we heard, "Moses, Moses, go tell them the following:...."
Thus, [Deuteronomy 5:4] relates:
"Face to face, God spoke to you,"
"God did not make this covenant with our fathers, [but with us, who are all here alive today]."
How is it known that the [revelation] at Mount Sinai alone is proof of the truth of Moses' prophecy that leaves no shortcoming? [Exodus 19:9] states:
"Behold, I will come to you in a thick cloud, so that the people will hear Me speaking to you, [so that] they will believe in you forever."
Thus, those to whom [Moses] was sent witnessed [his appointment] as a prophet, and it was not necessary to perform another wonder for them. He and they were witnesses, like two witnesses who observed the same event together. Each one serves as a witness to his colleague that he is telling the truth, and neither has to bring any other proof to his colleague.
Similarly, all Israel were witnesses to [the appointment of] Moses, our teacher, at the [revelation] at Mount Sinai, and it was unnecessary for him to perform any further wonders for them.
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