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Quote:22:15 If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed, he must pay a dowry and must marry her. 22:16 If her father refuses to allow him to marry her, then he must pay [the father] the usual dowry money for virgins.
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Mon, 4-Jun-07 17:31:48
Quote:Exodus 22:16 doesn't have so much to do with shmelke's original question, as with the teaching of the Torah on premarital sex. Am I wrong that it says if you have sex, you get married, or pay a fine if the father won't accept it? It is not the sin that adultery is, but this simply makes casual sex forbidden, does it not?
Mon, 4-Jun-07 18:09:59
Tue, 5-Jun-07 02:17:02
Quote:Good post Dan. Yes, Exodus 22:15-16 only has to do with virgins but there are other mitzvot that only apply to NON-virgins.
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Wed, 6-Jun-07 15:49:51
Quote:Matthew 15:1-3 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to J-sus from Jerusalem and asked, "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!" J-sus replied, "And why do you break the command of G-d for the sake of your tradition?
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Thu, 7-Jun-07 15:07:56
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Thu, 7-Jun-07 16:56:36
Quote:Well, then we have several possibilities, one of which was that the Pharisees were simply demanding an observance that was not a binding ruling.
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